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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon stripler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations of remarkable

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio

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i am your host lon strickler and i thank

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you for joining me here

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on the paranormal king radio network now

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since we're talking

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bigfoot this evening i'd like to present

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an account that i received not too long

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the witness states my brothers and i

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were hunting near kenosha utah

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our younger horse and dog were with us

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we were just hunting small game

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basically wasting time

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hunting squirrels and getting the colt

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used to hunting so we can use them in

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the future

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when we needed a pack horse we have been

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walking off the trail for at least two

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miles maybe three it was quite light

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outside but

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getting close to sunset we were hiking

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uphill and our dog suddenly began acting

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very squirrely

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his hair stood up along his back

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shoulders and neck he began huffing

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and snorting and getting very anxious he

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growling and wolfing but

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repeatedly looked at several different

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different directions at the same time

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the colt

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began acting very spooky

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his eyes widened head thrown up high

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nostrils flared

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and began to dance around nervously he

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was letting out snorts and breathing

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loud and heavily shortly after the

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animals began acting up

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we came up over the part of the hill

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where it flattened out for a couple

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hundred yards before it curved up

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as we came over the hill there were

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30 to 40 yards ahead and it did a double

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there was a huge black hairy creature

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with bright yellow eyes standing

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slightly behind a tree

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but peering out at us as if it was

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a very poor and careless effort to

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conceal itself

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it was just massive its ties were the

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size of tree trunks and its chest was

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easily four foot wide

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if not larger one arm was hanging loose

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to the side

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and one was holding on to the tree next

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to it the creature was swaying

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back and forth they stared at us for

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only a few seconds and we stared back

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and then we heard a a very low chest

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shaking

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rumble like the sound of an elephant

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makes as it made that sound it turned

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and spread up the hill

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ahead of us and into the line of trees

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that covered the rest of the mountain

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as far as we could see as soon as it

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began running a barking dog boulder and

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it disappeared in trees accurate

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as we yelled for the stupid butt to come

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we could hear the dog barking further

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and further away than silas for a few

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suddenly we heard a faint yelp off in

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the distance and yelping continued

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and slowly got louder and louder until

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we saw the dog emerge from a tree line

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and come barreling back to us the dog

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cuts and was very dirty and scared but

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we busted our asses back down the

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mountain after walking for what seemed

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we found an old empty cabin that was

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we went outside and unlocked the garage

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her garage door and let the spooky coat

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window at the top of the door with some

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sure every window and door were locked

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all night long we could hear something

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branches of sticks snapping loud

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etc we didn't leave that cabin until

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so let's get started with tonight's show

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tonight's guests are bigfoot enthusiasts

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dan maslick

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and reagan lee now dan has personally

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seeking the truth about bigfoot

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for 20 years in his part of georgia

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he'll be telling us about the evidence

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he has collected during

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his deep in the woods investigations

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reagan has been a long time bigfoot

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enthusiast who

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who hails from oregon she will present

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her experiences and theories

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collected during her investigations in

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the pacific northwest

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but i'll let you i'll let them tell you

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a little bit more about themselves

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so dan and reagan thanks for joining me

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oh thank you thanks ron

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it's great to be here now damn how did

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you become

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interested in bigfoot well

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that means i was a child of the 70s

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and that means that most

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guys around my age became

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fascinated when they first glanced at a

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movie called the legend of

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foggy creek i remember that

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seriously captivated me and frightened

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me all at the same time

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um also you know shortly thereafter that

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watching um letter nimoys in search of

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that focused on on bigfoot and

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the other thing um i went to grade

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in upstate new york and um

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i hate to admit this but i was a child

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who didn't like to read

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when my class was asked to go to the

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library and pick out books to read

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i happen to stumble across a a

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shelf of of books that were

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i guess you could say we're all about

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the paranormal bigfoot the bermuda

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ghosts flying saucers and it was the

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related to sasquatch that captivated me

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i i must have read for a kid who didn't

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like to read i probably read those

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bigfoot books about

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um and that's where i learned you kind

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of like the basics

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of um about you know the patterson

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what this creature is the common

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characteristics of what this creature

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based on eyewitness accounts you know

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stuff like that

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to my early 30s uh that's where and that

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more serious about my research catching

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documentaries and then um

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i really got into it about 10 years ago

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when i started doing my own

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investigations here in georgia

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and nothing really to speak about for a

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until just the last couple of years and

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i've had some pretty incredible stuff

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quite sure i want to see one because i

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know they exist

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but i've had some really fascinating um

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what i like to call occurrence has

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interesting now reagan i'll ask you the

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same question why does the study of

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bigfoot interest you

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just the strange and unusual and mainly

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ufos

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going back to my childhood and then

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probably 40 years ago now of course

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just hearing about bigfoot and doing at

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folklore and ufos and i started coming

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across a lot of bigfoot stories

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in connection with ufos and other just

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strange experiences like that other than

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flesh and blood stuff and at first i

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thought it was really too strange

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to bother with but i was also fascinated

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and the more i got into it the more of

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just had to find out everything i could

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and then i started meeting people

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so many people that have had encounters

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with sasquatch

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and you know people all walk i mean

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teachers

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doctors profess you know just all kinds

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of people

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and like dan i myself have not

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seen a sasquatch but i've had a couple

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of strange experiences connected

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to bigfoot um and so

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that interest of mine with bigfoot just

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goes along with my interest

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in everything strange yeah

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if it's strange i'm interested

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no now uh i i have had an encounter and

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i will tell you they are out there

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there's no other fans or buts but i

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that something's out there i'm not i'm

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an indigenous flesh and blood

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inter-dimensional or whatever it is

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there may be indigenous pods of

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bigfoot uh i think in the east coast

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i think it's more of the other something

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but we'll get into that a little further

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now dan why don't you tell us a little

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bit about your research what you

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some of the uh some of the evidence

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all right um i've had three occurrences

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last year in 2018 uh back in september

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um i'll i don't want to take up all the

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time so i'll i'll do

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a kind of a quicker version of them so

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that reagan can also

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share experiences um

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oddly enough the first experience i

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wasn't investigating

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now i was in north georgia and

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anyone who's done research especially in

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this state

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knows that there there is a hotbed of

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activity in the north georgia mountains

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just to add a side note in my own

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investigation there's basically

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five what i would consider five very

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active

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areas in the state of georgia and three

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of them are actually in middle and south

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georgia but

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uh we can save that for another time one

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of one of the uh

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the one of the fourth one active areas

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is

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in north georgia all along the um

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appalachian trail at certain points

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and um this now i i love to go

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backpacking

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i'll hit the trail

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for two three four days at a time and

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and you know camp off the trail

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overnight

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and continue on the next day in this

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particular

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uh instance my first experience i i was

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just doing basic camping at a campground

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and this campground um

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is one side of it

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lies off a a fairly busy highway

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and then the other side is a pretty

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heavily forested

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area and the campground itself is only

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maybe i don't know probably 10 or 15

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minutes from one of the trail heads

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for the appalachian trail so it's it

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it's up there

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um at about two is about two somewhere

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between two and three in the morning

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and um i was awakened by a group of

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coyotes doing a howl

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and about ten seconds after they had

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started

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here comes what i can only describe

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as a super massive loud

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low guttural yahoo

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type noise that was made it completely

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drowned out the coyotes

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and this this uh

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yahoo low guttural yahoo sound

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was so powerful that i could feel it

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coming

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through the ground up and through my

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sleeping bag right into my tent

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and um i have

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talked to people who have um

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said that they heard the same thing same

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type of sound

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it's a low massive loud yahoo sound

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which is which usually happens

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minutes before a sighting occurs now i

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didn't see the creature but

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based on what other people have said and

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then what i was hearing that night

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tells me that there was a creature close

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by and um

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i was i was i started putting two and

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two together and i was thinking those

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coyotes started howling

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they may have come across some road kill

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or or kill

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that they had made and this creature

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decided to swipe it away

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and you know was letting out this low

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guttural unbelievable yahoo sound as

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a chant of victory of some sort

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but needless to say it it was uh it was

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amazing

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and a little frightening because it was

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you know i couldn't see

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two inches in front of out outside of my

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tent

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because you know up there as anyone

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knows when you're in the woods like that

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it's

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once the sun goes down you can't see

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much so

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um if i had to guess i'd say that

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creature was no more than

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he had to be at least 50 or no more than

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50 to 100 yards away and um

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and that was the first instance the

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second instance is the

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the one that i submitted to you which um

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again this was an area right off the

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appalachian trail in north georgia

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um this happened just 30 days later from

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that first

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instance and what happened was

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a um uh there was

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there's a camping area a kind of a an

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agreed-upon

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camping area off this one section of the

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appalachian trail

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and you can see that it's been used

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before there's you know um

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fire rings and it's it's flat and it's

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ground level

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it's a great place to pitch a tent for

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the night and

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um so there i was there there were a few

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others there

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and um as the uh

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as the sun was going down

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out of nowhere this huge tree comes

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crashing down

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and immediately afterward um

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there is a what i can only describe is a

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low

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guttural grunt it sounded like a

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silverback gorilla

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the tree comes crashing down you hear

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the thump that hits the ground

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like that and um i remember i

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i didn't say anything because i was i

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was stunned

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and then the other i think it was there

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were four other campers

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and they all just looked at each other

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and said holy smokes that's that's got

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to be a sasquatch

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and um but that's as weird as that is

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this is where the story gets

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even more weird as i had submitted to

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you

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uh earlier the next more there's a

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four u.s forest service road that runs

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parallel to this section of the at

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and the next morning i would had

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ventured off trail to get some

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water uh to make coffee

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and which i like to do when i'm

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backpacking i get up real early get a

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fire going get some coffee going take my

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time

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and when i was near the um

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the forest u.s forest service road

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uh getting water here comes a an suv

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with a

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and i noticed that it had a huge

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sasquatch

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silhouette sticker i mean it was huge it

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was like the size of a basketball

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on the back of this suv so

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i immediately looked at that and i said

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well here's a couple of guys i can share

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um what just happened the night before

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with and you know

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they'll be just as interested as me and

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as i'm

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approaching the vehicle the the on the

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driver's side the guy rolls the window

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down a little bit

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and he gives me this really kind of

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strange look

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and at the same time i'm looking into

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the suv and there's two guys in there

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and lon they were completely tacked

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out to the max these guys had ar-15s on

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the rack

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uh tactical vests

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um you know uh pistols knives i mean

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these guys were complete

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completely tacked uh they looked like

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the military that's what they look like

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and so i i just to keep as i'm noticing

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this just to keep it kind of

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light-hearted i said hey guys i said i

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saw the sticker on the back of your

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of your suv and i said i i said

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i i kind of have that a smaller version

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of that sticker on my car which i do

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it was given to me by a family member

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and i just stuck it on there for fun

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and when i said that they both looked at

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each other then with this

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kind of strange look then they looked at

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me and the guy and the passengers he

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said

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well that was just a gag gift from my

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girlfriend he stomps on the gas

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and takes off now

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95 of my mind says that it was

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coincidence

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that these two guys happen to show up

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you know literally just eight to ten

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hours after there was

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an encounter with a creature who had

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pushed over a

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a pretty big healthy tree but there's

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five percent in my mind that says that's

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just that can't be coincidence

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especially

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when you factor in how military style

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these two guys were

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um and the fact that they showed up in

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that very spot

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you know i now one of the more likely

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scenarios that i've been told by other

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people

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that i've shared this story with is that

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um i don't get a sell signal when i'm up

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there in north georgia but sometimes

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other carriers i guess maybe they have

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better strength and

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some people do get signals i can't help

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but think that maybe one of those other

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campers made a call

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somebody overheard it and that's how

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they these guys were able to show up i'm

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not quite sure

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um yeah you know this is something

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that's starting to crop up more and more

519
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in the appalachian mountains and

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especially along the trail

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uh there's been a lot of stories and

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because people are on that trail

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of course you know if anybody's going to

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see anything it's going to be along

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there

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but these guys and military that are

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carrying

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weapons is being reported more and more

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and unfortunately

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in in in for you know in my opinion i i

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don't like the idea of people out there

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shooting guns

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and trying to kill these things yeah i

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don't either

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go ahead okay i'm sorry about that i

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wanted to add real quick lon

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um one of the more uh

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i guess popular more iconic parts of the

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appalachian trail

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in georgia there's 80 miles of

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appalachian trail one of the more

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popular iconic spots of that

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of those 80 miles is a section of the

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appalachian trail

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called blood mountain and i just want to

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throw this in real quick

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there was a roadside sighting

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interesting yes so reagan what's

549
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uh what's been going on your neck of the

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woods

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what's uh what kind of things have you

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collected and

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seen and uh some of the stories that

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you've been hearing

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right well um even though i i've never

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00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:04,159
seen

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a sasquatch um i i have no doubt they

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00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:09,039
exist

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you know and um well two

560
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oregon cases that are very

561
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on the stranger side of all this

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um one happened back in the 60s not too

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far from here maybe about 50 miles from

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here

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saucer crashing into a lake

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and then right after that there were

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reports of a white bigfoot like

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creature in the area that

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would run alongside of cars and trucks

570
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,720
some investigators went out there

571
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:52,640
journalists

572
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:56,400
she went out there with a friend who was

573
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:57,200
a psychic

574
00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:59,120
who said she communicated with this

575
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:00,320
creature

576
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,440
and he came from outer space and

577
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:10,000
so there there were a lot of things a

578
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,760
lot of stories like that from the

579
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:14,159
sheriffs and other witnesses who would

580
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:17,200
go down there looking for the creature

581
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:20,400
who would hear sounds growls

582
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:23,840
and they would smell that typical

583
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:27,039
kind of sulfur smell and hear like

584
00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:29,200
sudden footsteps but they would never

585
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,880
see anything

586
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:33,440
they'd have the same reactions of

587
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:36,159
animals horses and dogs

588
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:39,360
supposedly this creature killed a dog

589
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:42,159
some hunting dogs that were sent out

590
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,039
there and

591
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:45,919
so that was a big story going around at

592
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:47,760
the time

593
00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:50,960
and then another one uh

594
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:53,840
i think back in the 70s maybe a little

595
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,950
a man by the name of stan johnson had a

596
00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:00,320
ranch

597
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:03,120
and one day he was out there now he said

598
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:04,480
he had had

599
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:07,440
ufo experiences and bigfoot encounters

600
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:09,200
when he was much younger and i

601
00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:12,559
think and i might have this wrong he

602
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:14,480
used to live back east i think at

603
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:16,240
tennessee but then

604
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,440
in oregon he encountered a sasquatch

605
00:23:23,950 --> 00:23:21,600
family on his property

606
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:23,960
and once again they communicated

607
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:25,200
telepathically

608
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:31,350
all of these strange stories he

609
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:34,640
self-published a couple of

610
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:37,919
books he wrote about these experiences

611
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:40,960
and so i had

612
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:43,440
occasion to meet him once he was

613
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:44,640
speaking at a

614
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,120
ufo conference here in eugene oregon

615
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:51,360
and at the time he was still quite out

616
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:52,400
he

617
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:56,400
very vibrant

618
00:24:02,390 --> 00:24:00,400
very uh you never very strong he

619
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,400
went to shake my hand and i thought he

620
00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:04,400
was going to break my arm he was that

621
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:08,159
strong he was like whoa the energy

622
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,600
coming off the sky was something else

623
00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:14,480
so i just was interested in these

624
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:17,039
stories and i collected his stories

625
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:20,240
and all the material i could on him and

626
00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:23,520
a few actually several years ago now

627
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:26,960
i was talking to a

628
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:30,880
new age bookstore the owner here in town

629
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:33,279
about this guy stan johnson and his

630
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:35,120
bigfoot experiences

631
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:38,720
and we're standing there in her shop and

632
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:42,159
all of a sudden i feel well i don't

633
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:45,279
i feel but i also see and believe me i

634
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:47,120
know the sense is seeing

635
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,880
a cone of white light coming down from

636
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:52,720
the ceiling and just going

637
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,480
whoops right over me and i could see

638
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:58,960
through it like kind of like frosted

639
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:01,600
glass i could see everything but i was

640
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:02,000
like

641
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,720
inside this thing and sound was a little

642
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:06,000
muffled

643
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:08,720
and i've seen strange kind of lights

644
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:14,630
and then when we fit finished our

645
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:16,159
conversation

646
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:18,159
this cone went right back up into the

647
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:19,919
ceiling

648
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,799
and i must have had a really weird look

649
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:24,559
on my face because she's looking at me

650
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:26,320
so responding i said

651
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,679
so i told her what happened i said

652
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:29,440
you're not going to believe this i know

653
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:30,240
how it sounds

654
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:32,960
but the whole time we were talking about

655
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:33,440
stan

656
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:36,559
johnson and his bigfoot experiences

657
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,600
and she just smiled and said oh

658
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:41,440
that stuff happens all the time when we

659
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:43,760
talk about him

660
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:47,120
so all i have to say is that's what

661
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:48,480
happened

662
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:51,520
i was at a bigfoot conference a couple

663
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:53,200
years after that and i was telling

664
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:56,159
a woman there that she said it was the

665
00:26:03,110 --> 00:25:57,200
spirit

666
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:03,120
i'm not saying anything about that

667
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:03,919
either way

668
00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:07,200
i'm just reporting what happened

669
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:10,640
right you know like yeah

670
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,520
and um so i did think that was a very

671
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:15,360
strange experience

672
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:19,279
yeah absolutely yeah right and i've had

673
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,679
some a lot of things that happened to me

674
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:25,760
again in connection with ufos and other

675
00:26:31,990 --> 00:26:28,480
things come to me psychically

676
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:32,000
and through the dreams state and

677
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,000
when i'm meditating and trance-like

678
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:36,159
states and on the astral

679
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:40,080
and i had uh so i was kind of doing that

680
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:43,200
in a little meditation thing

681
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:46,159
and this image all of a sudden i was

682
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:47,360
kind of flying

683
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:50,720
along the coastline

684
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:55,200
the oregon coast and

685
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,400
was i almost hit a sasquatch

686
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,640
walking amongst the rocks he had come

687
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:02,080
down from the woods

688
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:05,200
and he looked at me and he was really

689
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:08,960
upset that i was like interfering

690
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:13,200
with his space you know it was uh

691
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:16,720
he was not happy that i was there

692
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:20,080
and so i just freaked myself out i don't

693
00:27:21,530 --> 00:27:21,200
know what's going on here but i'm

694
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,540
leaving

695
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:23,520
[Laughter]

696
00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:26,559
like i'm going to snap out of it and you

697
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:29,600
know some other strange

698
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:32,640
just events like that i could go on and

699
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:33,360
on and on

700
00:27:43,630 --> 00:27:41,909
i made a note of it now i can't find it

701
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:43,640
that's all about

702
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:46,720
coincidences i don't think there are any

703
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:49,679
coincidences i think that was what you

704
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:51,440
experienced now was

705
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:54,799
a real synchronicity i mean something

706
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:58,559
was really going on there more than just

707
00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:00,480
you know a coincidence i don't know how

708
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:02,080
you feel about that but

709
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:04,399
that's how it struck me i think at

710
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:05,679
things like this

711
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:09,200
um yeah i

712
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:12,480
do all these weird synchronicities i i

713
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:15,520
i you know i i tend to be i tend to

714
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:18,960
shade more towards the practical side

715
00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:20,480
when it comes to a lot of these things

716
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:22,399
but i this is the one

717
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,799
part that one part of my mind that says

718
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:27,279
no that it just can't be coincidence

719
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,399
that part i just can't let go

720
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,640
i mean you know out of out of the 80

721
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:34,720
miles of appalachian trail in georgia

722
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:36,880
you mean to tell me that these guys just

723
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,480
happened to show up at the one spot

724
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,559
where a creature had had pushed down a

725
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:43,039
tree just eight to ten hours earlier i

726
00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:44,960
that's that camp that there's just no

727
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:47,590
way that's a coincidence

728
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:49,279
[Music]

729
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,880
well you know this metaphysical or part

730
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:54,720
paranormal aspect

731
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,960
to the bigfoot phenomena is becoming

732
00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:58,960
more apparent

733
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:02,080
more and more nowadays uh you know it

734
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:08,230
if you were a bigfoot uh enthusiast

735
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:12,480
and you were investigating bigfoot

736
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:15,520
this this other

737
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:18,559
aspect to the phenomena would not

738
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:21,600
come into play but

739
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:23,200
i think it's becoming more and more

740
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:24,720
prevalent now i think people are

741
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:25,600
actually

742
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,200
being more open to the to the uh

743
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:32,640
possibility that these beings

744
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,919
may not they may be also actual flesh

745
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:37,440
and blood

746
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,120
but they not it's not exactly

747
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:43,360
you know indigenous that they're coming

748
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:45,520
in from somewhere else

749
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,559
i i don't you know it's it's just too

750
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,399
many there's just too many incidents

751
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:53,039
where these things suddenly disappear

752
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:55,600
where they uh they do things that it's

753
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:58,399
just impossible to understand

754
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:02,000
in the natural world

755
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:04,240
i mean one phenomena that we have been

756
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:05,919
noticing

757
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:08,320
more so the past three to four years

758
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:10,640
especially here in pennsylvania

759
00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:13,919
is the the orb activity around settings

760
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:15,440
bigfoot

761
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:18,080
now i i know you you've written about

762
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:18,799
orbs

763
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,760
for many years reagan but uh this is

764
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,679
something that seems to be showing up

765
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:25,279
with this phenomena

766
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:27,760
uh i'm gonna ask dan have you ever seen

767
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:31,520
any orbs in any of your investigations

768
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:34,080
uh i have not i have not i know i've

769
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:34,960
heard of

770
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:37,039
others you know having that type of

771
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:38,240
experience but

772
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:41,360
i have not okay

773
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:43,440
and you reagan i'm quite sure you have

774
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:45,120
heard of it

775
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:48,399
yes i have in fact one of the first

776
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:51,440
stories i came across i forgot where now

777
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:54,720
when i first started looking into this

778
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:58,480
was of a orbs being seen in connection

779
00:31:02,549 --> 00:30:59,039
with

780
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:02,559
a bigfoot encounter and uh

781
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:05,360
you know there's all kinds of orbs uh

782
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:06,799
the spirit orbs

783
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:10,399
and there's light that i think

784
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:13,039
is different than what somebody would

785
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:13,440
say

786
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:15,919
is like a ghost or spirit right and then

787
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:16,640
there's just

788
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:19,919
craft and then there's so there's all

789
00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:22,320
you know when we talk about orbs i i

790
00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:23,840
think sometimes we just need to make

791
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:25,279
distinctions so we know what we're

792
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:26,159
talking about

793
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:29,360
right but um yeah and i

794
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:32,720
myself saw a huge orb uh but that was

795
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:36,720
a a ufo and

796
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:39,919
uh there was no bigfoot connection

797
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:42,399
or at least of course i know as far as

798
00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:43,440
you know you know this

799
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,919
and this is one thing that i have been

800
00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:47,600
investigating for a long time and in

801
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:48,159
fact

802
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:50,799
stan gordon has talked about this for

803
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:52,320
many many years

804
00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:55,519
that the ufo activity and bigfoot

805
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,840
activities seem to be connected in some

806
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:00,399
circumstances

807
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:03,200
where you know there have been sightings

808
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:04,880
of ufos

809
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:07,519
and then not long after or even the same

810
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:08,000
time

811
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,519
a bigfoot is being seen um

812
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,679
i think it's more prevalent in areas

813
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:15,679
that have high activity

814
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,399
uh like in the chestnut ridge in

815
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:20,640
pennsylvania and west virginia

816
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:23,840
uh out in you know

817
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:25,840
and you talk about north and northern

818
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,080
georgia i mean that i have heard so many

819
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:31,039
crazy stories in that area for years

820
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,240
of uh these uh

821
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:37,519
these ufo and and other phenomena being

822
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:39,919
associated with ufos

823
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,080
i i think the veils at this point the

824
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:44,640
veil has thinned to where

825
00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:48,640
you can kind of make a a strong argument

826
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:49,039
for

827
00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:53,039
there being a connection to a lot of

828
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:01,590
north georgia is definitely i i

829
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,519
completely agree with your assessment

830
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:05,519
and uh i mean even north georgia has

831
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:06,799
even had some dogman

832
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:10,240
sightings as well

833
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,080
yeah i mean i think i think cryptid

834
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:14,080
activity and ufo

835
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:17,440
and even even spirit energy

836
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,559
kind of goes hand in hand uh in a lot of

837
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:21,840
these uh

838
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,080
these areas and uh you know we've been

839
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,320
hearing for years around here

840
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,640
of that happening and uh there are a lot

841
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,640
of areas in the united states

842
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:32,480
particularly in canada

843
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:35,600
where these all these phenomena seem to

844
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:38,480
congregate or show up once in a while so

845
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:39,679
um

846
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:43,200
you know i i think you know i i think

847
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,720
like i said i think there's a strong

848
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:46,799
argument for these phenomena being

849
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:48,960
connected

850
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:51,600
yeah i agree with that too and here on

851
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:52,000
the

852
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:55,760
researchers who go

853
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,120
out there and do active

854
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:01,760
you know physical field investigations

855
00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:02,399
and

856
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:05,919
i don't know you mentioned stan gordon

857
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:06,480
and

858
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:08,560
there's tom powell who's written some

859
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:12,000
interesting books about his experiences

860
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:15,440
that include the more i don't know if

861
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:18,000
you want caught paranormal or what but

862
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:19,919
beyond flesh and blood you know

863
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:22,079
something else is going on

864
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:26,240
strange synchronicities uh telepathy

865
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:29,760
you know just um that

866
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:33,520
clearly is saying there's more here than

867
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,639
i don't know if in every case those

868
00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:39,440
stranger elements are present or part of

869
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:40,079
it but

870
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:43,280
certainly a big part of it and

871
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:46,800
i agree with you alon too that

872
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:49,520
i think researchers are starting to open

873
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:49,919
be

874
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:55,119
if we pretend it's not there we're not

875
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:56,240
going to get anywhere

876
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,079
you know well there are you know i i

877
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:00,320
know years ago when i was doing this

878
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:03,760
and uh if if i even mention something

879
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:05,200
about an interdimensional

880
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:08,240
or paranormal aspect to

881
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:10,240
the bigfoot i mean you get laughed at

882
00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:12,160
you think people think you're crazy

883
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,839
and it's just not it's just not like

884
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:15,520
that will carry you out

885
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:18,640
yeah yeah that's true

886
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,960
yeah i mean it has gotten to the point

887
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:22,160
now where

888
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:25,599
well i mean a body's never been found

889
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:30,079
uh there's fleeing evidence

890
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:34,000
physical evidence uh footprints stat

891
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:36,880
hair whatever of these beings but the

892
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:37,280
body

893
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:43,119
you know as you start thinking about

894
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:44,800
this

895
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:48,079
and and i and i do realize it

896
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:50,560
it's it's difficult to even find much of

897
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:51,520
any wildlife

898
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:54,000
bodies in the woods because you know

899
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,839
nature takes care of a lot of that very

900
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:57,280
quickly

901
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:01,280
but it does just still still seem very

902
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:04,560
hard to believe that any body

903
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:08,000
or any aspect skeleton or whatever has

904
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:08,560
ever been

905
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:11,680
found uh with bigfoot you gotta have

906
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:14,079
that in the back of your mind that

907
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:15,760
you know maybe there's something else

908
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,960
that to explain why people aren't seeing

909
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:20,240
these things

910
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:25,520
dead what you think about that dan

911
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,760
um i mean it's definitely something to

912
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:30,000
consider you know if you had asked me

913
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:33,440
five ten years ago what this creature is

914
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:34,560
i would have said look it's an

915
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,040
undiscovered primate 100

916
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:39,440
flesh and blood but let me tell you

917
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:40,400
something as

918
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,240
time has gone on in in the deeper i've

919
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,880
gotten into this the this this

920
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:48,640
phenomenon

921
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:52,079
um i would say my opinion

922
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:55,920
has changed and i still believe

923
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:58,160
in the flesh and blood but only by about

924
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:00,160
60 to 70 percent

925
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:03,200
the remaining 30 has now of my of my

926
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:04,400
opinion has now

927
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:06,839
been opened to these type of

928
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:08,079
possibilities

929
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:11,280
ron moorehead um you know who

930
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,320
has some of the best audio

931
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:16,400
i think and just like just like the

932
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:18,240
patterson gimlin film is considered the

933
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:19,040
best evidence

934
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:21,280
over the course of 50 years i think the

935
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:22,079
best audio

936
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:24,240
evidence ever collected was by ron

937
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:25,280
morehead

938
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:27,599
in the 70s you know and of course i'm

939
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:29,680
referring to the sierra sounds

940
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:32,079
and he came out with a book last year

941
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:32,720
called

942
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:35,119
quantum bigfoot and i haven't read the

943
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:38,000
whole book but i've read excerpts and he

944
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:41,280
he lay he he lays out

945
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:44,400
um how quantum theory can be used as an

946
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:45,760
explanation for

947
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:48,720
what some of these creatures can do uh

948
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:49,040
like

949
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,800
cloaking and and seeing a set of

950
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:54,480
footprints

951
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:57,520
that just out of nowhere disappear you

952
00:38:04,630 --> 00:37:58,000
know

953
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,640
you've got the you've got another camp

954
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:06,000
that says well they're the part of the

955
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:08,960
nephilim so there are so many different

956
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,079
camps that

957
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,160
that i've kind of become a little more

958
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,079
open to because

959
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:16,480
the the longer your i'm sure you guys

960
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:19,119
can probably back me up on this the

961
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:21,200
longer you're in it the more strange it

962
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:21,680
gets

963
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:24,640
and one simple solution in this case

964
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:25,839
flesh and blood

965
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:30,400
explain

966
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:37,750
well you know yeah yeah i think there

967
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:38,240
are

968
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:43,119
and canada where there very well may be

969
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:44,720
indigenous

970
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:48,320
pods of the these beings now uh pacific

971
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:49,280
northwest

972
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,320
florida i mean you know

973
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:58,870
a specific type of bigfoot has been seen

974
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,200
over the years

975
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,760
but the fact that here in like the

976
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:05,040
eastern part of the united states

977
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:06,720
northeast part of the united states

978
00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:09,040
the upper midwest there seem to be a

979
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,240
different varieties

980
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,640
and i mean i'm just not talking i'm

981
00:39:17,470 --> 00:39:14,480
talking different body shapes

982
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:17,480
different uh aspects different

983
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:19,359
characteristics

984
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:23,440
uh to where it's kind of hard to believe

985
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:27,119
that that in these indigenous

986
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:30,560
groups would be living

987
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:33,599
and not seen somehow that there there's

988
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:34,960
some way like you mentioned

989
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,680
cloaking well maybe that is part of

990
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:39,760
what's going on maybe it's the cloaking

991
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:40,720
maybe

992
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,200
parallel reality something where you

993
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:49,520
know they come in and out somehow

994
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:52,560
but in some areas it to me

995
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,560
it just seems difficult to believe that

996
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:56,960
there are family groups

997
00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:59,119
and uh that they haven't been seen more

998
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:00,640
often

999
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:08,950
yeah i i agree that there does seem to

1000
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:10,319
be uh

1001
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:14,960
different types you know varieties

1002
00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:18,079
and like i said before i'm not i

1003
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:23,510
some just some of them have these

1004
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:24,640
abilities

1005
00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:28,240
or they just choose not to

1006
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,520
use them or use them in other

1007
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,599
in certain situations you know i don't

1008
00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:35,680
have any answers

1009
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,079
except that there's a lot obviously

1010
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:40,319
there's a lot going on

1011
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,839
and the types of activity and the types

1012
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:45,760
of creatures seen

1013
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:49,520
uh do seem to have some variety

1014
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,280
on you know regionally and uh

1015
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:55,200
you mentioned ron moorhead too yes

1016
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:56,400
that's a book

1017
00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:58,400
i'm aware of i'm looking forward to

1018
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:00,400
reading it i haven't had chestery

1019
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,880
yet but i you know i've heard him

1020
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,720
interviewed and read interviews with him

1021
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:06,079
and his experiences

1022
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:09,440
and his take on it are very interesting

1023
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:13,920
and he's you know open and willing to

1024
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:21,510
as to again

1025
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:25,040
what what is it i don't know

1026
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,160
but it but it is

1027
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:30,480
well dan what what else have you you

1028
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:31,520
seen

1029
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:35,280
in your your investigations that um

1030
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:39,040
that seem to indicate that

1031
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:42,480
the bigfoot are in the area

1032
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:45,599
okay um so this this occurrence happened

1033
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:46,640
just this past

1034
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:49,680
uh september um if this is going to take

1035
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:50,079
me

1036
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:51,599
probably just a couple minutes because i

1037
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,880
have to provide the background

1038
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:54,960
information but just bear with me

1039
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:58,400
so um here in the state of georgia we

1040
00:42:02,630 --> 00:41:59,280
have a

1041
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,640
truly excellent place um

1042
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,800
it's called expedition bigfoot it's and

1043
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:05,839
it's a museum

1044
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,079
dedicated to bigfoot it is a fantastic

1045
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,000
place and um

1046
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:12,160
there was a big event there a couple

1047
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:14,079
years ago

1048
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:17,680
uh bob gimlin was visiting and um

1049
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:20,560
i i went to this event i wanted to meet

1050
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:22,000
meet the man meet the legend

1051
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,839
and uh um there were a lot of people

1052
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:27,200
there as you can imagine

1053
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,319
and um um

1054
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:32,960
so of course uh i started meeting

1055
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:33,760
different people

1056
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:35,839
talking with other people and i met a

1057
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:37,280
young man

1058
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:39,520
um i i don't want to submit any names

1059
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,960
and i i don't want to submit any

1060
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:42,079
locations

1061
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:43,920
so uh um you'll have to forgive me for

1062
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:45,599
that but

1063
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:48,800
i met a young man um and

1064
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,000
uh he's a bright guy and

1065
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,640
we kept in touch through facebook uh for

1066
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,000
the last couple years

1067
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,720
talking about bigfoot different bigfoot

1068
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:00,720
topic related subjects

1069
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:03,839
and he actually had had a couple of

1070
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:06,079
sightings in different parts of north

1071
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:07,520
georgia which he

1072
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:11,280
described to me um i didn't hear from

1073
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,400
him for a little while

1074
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:14,240
probably about six months and then out

1075
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:15,839
of nowhere

1076
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,480
um back uh this past summer i get a

1077
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:20,319
couple messages from him

1078
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:22,880
and he's telling me that he's discovered

1079
00:43:25,829 --> 00:43:23,680
an area

1080
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,839
in north georgia not as north as the

1081
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,520
appalachian trail

1082
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:29,200
which is significant and i'll talk about

1083
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,630
but he found an area where not only did

1084
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:36,000
he have a sighting

1085
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:39,359
but basically you don't have to hike

1086
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:41,359
very far before you start getting

1087
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,960
activity

1088
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,800
and to be perfectly honest i didn't

1089
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:46,079
believe them

1090
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,839
but you know i love the outdoors i'm a

1091
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:49,440
backpacker so i'm like you know what if

1092
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:50,560
i can get a

1093
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,240
partner with me to go hiking one night

1094
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:54,319
why not i'll go

1095
00:43:57,510 --> 00:43:57,200
so we met up and this is a month later

1096
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:57,520
which

1097
00:44:02,230 --> 00:43:59,920
now would be september of just this past

1098
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:02,240
year 2018

1099
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,240
and um we're actually driving

1100
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:08,480
on a gravel road to the parking lot

1101
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,240
where the trailhead is

1102
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,960
he uh stops the car and says look to

1103
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:14,480
your left

1104
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:18,880
and i see this humongous tree structure

1105
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:21,760
in the form of a letter x now let me be

1106
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:22,079
the

1107
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:26,640
been kind of skeptical about

1108
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:30,240
tree formations but when you see one up

1109
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:30,800
close

1110
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:33,839
in real time in the in the woods

1111
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:37,119
with no connective root system in other

1112
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,079
words where these

1113
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:40,800
trees broke and where they were placed

1114
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:43,119
were very far apart

1115
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:46,319
and the way they were situated about 12

1116
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:50,160
10 to 12 feet high it you can

1117
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,920
it's not hard to figure it out when

1118
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:53,520
you're looking at it that these were

1119
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,359
placed there and it just not it's just

1120
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:57,440
not deadfall

1121
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:00,800
now um so here i am

1122
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:03,280
in the woods off the parking lot looking

1123
00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:04,000
at this

1124
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:07,119
tree structure in complete amazement and

1125
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:08,640
what happens next

1126
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:12,240
a clear loud whoop

1127
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:14,560
i mean it's just like the kind that you

1128
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:15,359
hear on

1129
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:19,839
shows or recordings i mean it was

1130
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:22,960
clear as day so he's looking at me and

1131
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:23,920
i'm looking at him

1132
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,480
he's like you heard that i said i did

1133
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:28,800
and he's like they're close by

1134
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,319
so um we continued onward we

1135
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:34,560
got to the parking lot hiked in a little

1136
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:36,560
bit

1137
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:40,319
and um it was during the week when most

1138
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:42,319
people are working or in school

1139
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,079
so there was nobody that we were the

1140
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,000
only people on that trail because

1141
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,000
there were no other cars there were no

1142
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:50,960
other hikers nobody was around

1143
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:56,319
um about 45 minutes in

1144
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,200
after the wolf we hear this um

1145
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:03,839
how can i describe it line it was it was

1146
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:04,560
like a

1147
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:08,000
it was a yell not it wasn't a it was a

1148
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:08,400
yell

1149
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:15,829
like like a like a like an insane mad

1150
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:17,200
woman

1151
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:20,240
um because it was high pitched and that

1152
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,359
also is a very common sound heard among

1153
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:25,119
many other eyewitnesses

1154
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:26,960
that i've talked to in my own

1155
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:28,800
investigations over the years

1156
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:31,040
so once again he looks at me i look at

1157
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:32,000
him

1158
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,640
and we're like you know maybe we should

1159
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,640
start heading back to the car

1160
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,400
maybe we've overstayed our welcome

1161
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,560
because there's obviously

1162
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:42,960
not someone but something here besides

1163
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:44,720
us

1164
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:47,280
about 10 minutes after that we're as

1165
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,599
because we did decide to head back

1166
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:51,680
what happens next that just the good

1167
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:52,800
old-fashioned

1168
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:55,520
rocks start being pelted our way yeah

1169
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:56,160
and

1170
00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,280
i said that's it i've had enough i

1171
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,200
i want to i want to leave and i want to

1172
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,640
get out of here

1173
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,160
and he and the guy that was when you

1174
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:06,400
said okay so so

1175
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:08,240
needless to say we double timed it back

1176
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:10,240
to the car and and we got out of there

1177
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:10,720
and

1178
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:13,359
i was i was really frightened because

1179
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:14,480
you know to leave

1180
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:16,240
the trailhead you had the you had to

1181
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:17,520
drive on that

1182
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:20,559
gravel road first and

1183
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:23,839
um uh to get to the road and i'm

1184
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:24,559
thinking

1185
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:27,520
if these things are that close well you

1186
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:28,240
know

1187
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:30,000
something's probably gonna run at our

1188
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:32,000
car or in front of our car

1189
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:33,040
and that's gonna make the whole

1190
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:34,960
situation even a little more frightening

1191
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:35,920
for me but

1192
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:37,760
but thankfully that that didn't happen

1193
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:40,800
but nonetheless um we got out of there

1194
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:43,920
now here's here's the the mindbender

1195
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:45,119
lawn

1196
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,160
that area that i'm referring to and

1197
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:50,640
again i i apologize i i don't want to

1198
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:51,200
name

1199
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,640
any locations because i don't want

1200
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:54,319
people flocking to it or

1201
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:57,680
well i understand um this

1202
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,800
location where this occurred

1203
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,160
and there have been other sightings

1204
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:04,319
there too um

1205
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:07,520
is literally on only one hour's walking

1206
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:08,559
distance

1207
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:12,720
from that from what would be considered

1208
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:14,800
a downtown type of setting

1209
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:18,000
you know strip malls uh you know

1210
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:20,880
intersections four-lane roads it's only

1211
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:21,119
an

1212
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:35,670
you know you you do hear a lot more of

1213
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:36,800
the uh

1214
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,800
what people sometimes call the urban

1215
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:40,880
bigfoot where you see them in these

1216
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:43,119
these more populated areas you know i

1217
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:45,200
had a um

1218
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:48,480
i had a woman down in a near san antonio

1219
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:52,240
texas contact me not long ago

1220
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:55,520
lived in a subdivision and

1221
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:58,640
this this one bigfoot was

1222
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,800
just scaring the hell out of everybody

1223
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:03,119
in this subdivision

1224
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:07,200
uh would walk up to people

1225
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:09,040
while they'd be in the garden doing

1226
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,559
something or out

1227
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:13,440
out in the front part of the house just

1228
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,079
woke up

1229
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,480
and i was getting i was getting people

1230
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:17,680
telling me

1231
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,319
that you know when i keep i kept saying

1232
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:22,160
well can you get a photograph

1233
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,480
i you know and it's a that's one thing

1234
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,400
well by the time i start i got the phone

1235
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:27,680
and everything

1236
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:30,960
it was gone well yeah i did send an

1237
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:31,839
investigator

1238
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:35,599
to it and uh they told me

1239
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:38,160
i believe what they're telling i've seen

1240
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:39,680
tracks

1241
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:42,559
and these people are genuinely

1242
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:43,680
frightened

1243
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:47,520
so the fact that these um these reports

1244
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:49,599
coming from residential areas

1245
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:52,960
is not surprising to me so

1246
00:50:00,549 --> 00:49:57,200
i i wanted to um oh i'm sorry reagan

1247
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,559
you go ahead i just had uh to

1248
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:02,800
you know piggyback on what you were

1249
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:03,680
saying

1250
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:07,520
but you go ahead

1251
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:10,800
um i i just want to add on real quick

1252
00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:13,280
a few weeks later lon i decided to go

1253
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:14,640
back to that area

1254
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:18,000
by myself and i really wish i hadn't

1255
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:18,640
because

1256
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:21,040
first of all i am a missing 4-1-1

1257
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:27,510
and and so i broke the the cardinal rule

1258
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:28,880
of going by myself

1259
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:34,160
uh like that but um i i was so

1260
00:50:38,829 --> 00:50:36,559
uh i was so amazed at what had happened

1261
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,839
that i went back by myself a few weeks

1262
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,400
later

1263
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:43,280
same thing um i saw the tree structure

1264
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:44,559
again

1265
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:48,400
i hiked in about only about a mile

1266
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:51,760
and i heard the most

1267
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:54,160
prolific series of wood knocks that i've

1268
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:55,839
ever heard in my life

1269
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:58,880
and it this wasn't dead fall

1270
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:01,280
any of anyone who's been in the woods

1271
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:03,440
for even if it was even if it's for a

1272
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:04,640
short amount of time knows the

1273
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:05,520
difference of what

1274
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:08,160
deadfall sounds like and what wood on

1275
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:08,559
wood

1276
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:10,079
being pounded against each other

1277
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:11,760
purposely sounds like

1278
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:13,760
this was like two louisville sluggers

1279
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:15,040
going at it

1280
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:18,880
and i i i immediately turned around

1281
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:21,520
and got out of there and then as i was

1282
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,240
leaving

1283
00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:24,960
just before i got back to the trailhead

1284
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:25,520
um

1285
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:28,720
i saw a tree and and i

1286
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,640
i wanted to get out of there so but i i

1287
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:32,480
stopped for just for a quick moment to

1288
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,720
i was gonna take a picture but i was

1289
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:36,000
kind of frightened so i

1290
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,720
just kept on going but there was a tree

1291
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:39,839
right there

1292
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:42,319
on the side of the trail that had been

1293
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:43,440
just freshly

1294
00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:46,880
twisted and bent now it was a clear day

1295
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:48,880
sunny blue skies

1296
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,760
so then so and that same tree had not

1297
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,280
been like that

1298
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:55,920
went just 20 minutes prior when i had

1299
00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:04,150
so that that that it was the same area

1300
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:06,319
so reagan what have were you about to

1301
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:07,680
say about the uh

1302
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:11,040
oh yeah well i

1303
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:14,559
um it's just one of those things

1304
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:18,079
uh not far outside of eugene at all

1305
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:21,839
i mean less than 10 m less than 10 miles

1306
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,200
but still a very rural area

1307
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:27,520
you know eugene's kind of urban it's a

1308
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,880
small city it's

1309
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:30,559
you know there's a university here in

1310
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:33,119
the whole thing but you just drive a few

1311
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:34,880
minutes in any direction

1312
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:38,400
and it's you know woods and rural and

1313
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:41,680
so anyway i decided and i'm a 4-1-1

1314
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:46,000
you know nerd as well and

1315
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:47,440
so i probably should have been doing

1316
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:49,520
this but i just i'm going to take a

1317
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:50,319
drive

1318
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,680
into wherever and i'm driving it's a

1319
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:55,119
beautiful day

1320
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:57,680
beautiful afternoon and i'm up you know

1321
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,160
further further out

1322
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,960
still on a paved road and there are

1323
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,319
houses here and there

1324
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:06,640
but you know the further you go and then

1325
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:07,520
i get to

1326
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:15,030
beautiful stunning view so i i just get

1327
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:15,839
pull over

1328
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,280
get out of the car i'm looking out over

1329
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:21,280
the valley

1330
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:24,079
and but right across the road behind me

1331
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:24,559
just

1332
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:29,920
thick woods

1333
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:32,400
and i feel great it's a beautiful day

1334
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:33,839
i'm just standing there and

1335
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:38,640
all of a sudden i felt

1336
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:42,400
uh i almost heard it like this

1337
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:46,000
roaring a

1338
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,839
cloud of energy coming from behind me

1339
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:51,680
from the woods i mean this was an

1340
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:53,280
intelligent

1341
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:57,119
sentient presence that was

1342
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:01,040
shouting at me to get out they did not

1343
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:04,160
want me there get out now

1344
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:05,680
if you know what's good for you kind of

1345
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:07,359
thing and

1346
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:10,160
it a couple people said to me well maybe

1347
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:11,520
it's a panic attack well

1348
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:14,240
you know i've had panic attacks and

1349
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:15,040
believe me

1350
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:18,640
this was nothing going on with me at all

1351
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:19,520
this was from

1352
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:23,200
outside coming at me

1353
00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:26,240
and i i took about two seconds to wonder

1354
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:29,839
what the what is going

1355
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:32,960
and the thing just kept coming and i

1356
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:34,640
said fine i'm leaving

1357
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:38,240
i hear ya

1358
00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:41,119
and i took off and i don't know what

1359
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:42,559
that was i've never

1360
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:45,440
experienced anything like that before

1361
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:46,720
ever

1362
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:50,319
um and there have been reports

1363
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:54,240
of a bigfoot uh very close by

1364
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:57,520
uh so i don't

1365
00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:00,319
doubt that at all you know i know people

1366
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:01,839
that

1367
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,440
you know within five minutes you're at

1368
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:05,440
their house and they say they've seen

1369
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:09,599
bigfoot on their property you know so

1370
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:12,559
i think they're a lot closer than some

1371
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:12,960
people

1372
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:15,520
might might think oh absolutely i think

1373
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:16,480
that's right

1374
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:18,720
i couldn't agree i couldn't agree more

1375
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:20,160
as a matter of fact

1376
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:22,799
one of my future projects is to put

1377
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:23,760
together

1378
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,799
a sightings database where sightings are

1379
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:28,559
occurring within only three to

1380
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:32,400
three my three to five miles of

1381
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:34,880
everyday civilization you know stores

1382
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:35,760
intersections

1383
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:39,119
you know busy roads right

1384
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:42,079
yeah this and this thing my point was

1385
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:42,720
this thing

1386
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:46,640
i don't know why um there's a little bit

1387
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:47,520
of me

1388
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,119
that associates it with sasquatch

1389
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:54,160
and i don't know why i mean i didn't

1390
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:57,839
hear anything you know any gra there

1391
00:56:02,950 --> 00:55:59,760
wasn't any rock throwing or

1392
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:02,960
any of the typical behaviors

1393
00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:05,440
and i certainly didn't see anything but

1394
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:06,319
there's this like

1395
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:10,880
weird subconscious nagging nudging thing

1396
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:13,520
that tells me that and i'm not saying

1397
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:14,000
that

1398
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:20,960
it's what what happened and i'm just

1399
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,720
relaying the experience well

1400
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:26,799
dan and reagan i want to thank you both

1401
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:29,119
for joining me on this show

1402
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:31,359
i think i'm gonna do more of this have

1403
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:33,520
these theme shows like this

1404
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:37,839
and just bring regular

1405
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:40,160
enthusiasts to whatever crypt that we're

1406
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:41,280
talking about

1407
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,559
to come on in and present their evidence

1408
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:46,160
and their cases

1409
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:48,000
maybe this is something that will will

1410
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:49,200
keep going again

1411
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:51,520
thank you both for coming on the show oh

1412
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:52,559
wow thank you

1413
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very much thank you ron okay

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now i want to talk about a three-day

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event that's coming up on

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may 31st to june the 2nd

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of this year it's it's titled the

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bigfoot

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00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:11,760
camping adventure and it's going to be

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00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:14,880
out in fayette county pennsylvania

1421
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:18,400
you can find the website

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00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:23,599
at pabigfootcampingadventure.com

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00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:25,680
and i tell you this is going to be the

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00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:27,119
event of the year

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00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,630
eric altman is is the person running the

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00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:38,400
show on this and he had

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00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:41,760
two other two other events

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00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:44,240
two years well one three years ago one

1429
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:45,119
two years ago

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00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:48,400
and we skipped last year but it's coming

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00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:50,720
back this year and i'm going to tell you

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00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:52,400
you don't want to miss it

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00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:55,920
uh some of the guests dr jeffrey meldrum

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00:58:03,349 --> 00:57:59,599
cliff barrackman the ames team

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00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:03,359
ken gerhart bill brock then there's stan

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00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:08,559
gordon david weatherly seth breedlove

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00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:14,069
jay picoche and his son rose marielle

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00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:14,880
and guyley

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00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:18,160
rick fisher as well the phantoms and

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00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:19,359
monsters 14

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00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:23,200
research team butch witkowski

1442
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,319
shawn forker and myself will be there

1443
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:28,480
there are going to be a lot of different

1444
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,000
guest

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00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,640
speakers uh it's going to be a

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00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,240
fun-filled weekend so

1447
00:58:40,750 --> 00:58:37,280
i'm going to tell you again the website

1448
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:43,109
pabigfootcampingadventure.com

1449
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:47,599
get your tickets make your plans

1450
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:49,760
the hotel rooms are going quick so if

1451
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:51,200
you plan on being there i

1452
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:54,319
i suggest you you get on the ball as

1453
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,440
quick as possible

1454
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:56,960
because this is going to be the event of

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00:59:03,270 --> 00:58:59,359
the year

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00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:03,280
now listeners can show their support for

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00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:05,920
arcane radio by becoming a patron

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00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:08,960
simply go to phantomsmonsters.com

1459
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:11,839
and click the podbean patron banner

1460
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:13,200
arcane radio also

1461
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:16,559
accepts direct donations now if you have

1462
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:18,319
an unexplained encounter on sighting

1463
00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:20,799
feel free to contact me through the

1464
00:59:25,349 --> 00:59:23,119
phantoms of monsters blog site

1465
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:25,359
i want to again thank dan maslek and

1466
00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:27,760
reagan lee for joining me this evening

1467
00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:29,839
and want to thank you for listening to

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00:59:58,829 --> 00:59:30,799
the show

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01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:12,829
so